I have found this sight and decided to give it a read, and I have discovered a lot of misconceptions about the army. Why is it that people believe when the local national guard or reserve unit is "called away" that the military installation that they based out of/come from will be abandoned. This is not the truth. I have been in the national guard and reserves so I have some experience in with these situations of units being "called away".
First off when a unit is deployed, whether its being deployed to a warzone overseas or being deployed to a national disaster within the nation or to another nation that is in need of assistance because of a national disaster, not everyone in the unit goes. First there is a logistical team that stays at the home installation, this is called a rear detatchment. They are to take care of logistical problems that come up, family issues, pay issues, supply issues between the state and the unit. Second there is a group in the rear detachment that is classified as medical holdovers, or as soldiers in the unit called them "broke dicks". Not everyone is medically cleared to go off to warzones or to national emergencies even though the unit may need everyone they can get. If you have a broken limb you are not deployed period and put into the rear detachment, recovering from a injury or recently had surgery, they put you in the rear detachment. Also in the case of females, if they are pregnant, they dont deploy. Another group of is the soldiers who have not yet been to training, this has to be BCT and AIT in order to deploy, if you have not completed these two training periods you dont go anywhere and are placed in the rear detachment. And the thing is with the national guard and reserves you can sign up and be in both officially while not having this training, there is also situations where a soldier will have done BCT but not AIT because in the national guard and reserves they make it to where you can attend one during the summer, you can return home and return to school, and go the following summer.
I know this from personal experience. I joined a states national guard when I was a junior in high school in 2002, I went to BCT during the summer inbetween my junior and senior year of highschool at the age of 17 years old. In late 2003 when I was a senior in highschool my battalion was called up for the invasion of Iraq. I of course did not go because I was in highschool along with because I didnt have AIT completed. Everyone in the above categories where organized into a rear detachment where we still had to attend weekend drills and complete a two week AT. One of these weekend drills was a pretend situation was put into place, we had to secure the armory for the weekend as if martial law was declared and the battalion was called away. We did this because the battalion was away in Iraq so it was a perfect situation, on how rear detachments of national guard/reserves can possibly get called up during a national emergency and unit is called away. We did 24 hour constant guard, were issued weapons and magazines "no ammo of course it was a exercise near a city", and we were not allowed to go home at night, didnt leave military installation at all, we all slept in the armory, did searches on everyone coming in car checks "this pissed off a lot of the civilian workers".
The rear detachment I was in at the first drill weekend we held we had size of 2 and a half platoons around 40+ people. This did not include the logistics personal left behind however because they were on state orders and were considered fulltime, so they did not have to attend weekend drills, I never saw/knew how many were left behind for logistics, the most I ever saw during the day passing going into the armory to my locker to get something, was 6 people, however for a battalion size I believe there could of been more.
Another situation, before the war in Iraq, I had just signed up I was a junior in highschool, was officially in, I attended drills, wore the uniform, ect. The company I was in had a mission for the weekend. They were to go to a state military camp and construct a quick small base, they were a engineer company, so was the battalion. They prepared their equipment for transportation and they left for the camp, I along with everyone who hadnt been to AIT was left behind along with a small logistics team. The reasoning is we didnt have the proper training to attend the mission. All together I think there were only a total of 9 people at the armory, 2 people for logistics and 7 of us that hadnt been to AIT, we stayed behind and didnt do much for that weekend, however we were there and were required to be there.
I can not speak for regular army, any navy, air force, or marine component installations, only national guard and army reserve. However the point I am trying to make is I see a lot of talk about, "abandoned military installations", and "local national guard/reserves being called away", and I am calling bullshit on a lot of it. I know there are a lot of circumstances that have a wide range, but just blatant talk about abandoned military installations and local national guard/reserves just sounds stupid to me. Maybe its because I know what would happen in certain situations, and have experienced it, but seeing all this talk about the military just going away just makes me laugh.
Another topic that makes me laugh is how a lot of people here think the military would just collapse in a zombie attack like the book world war xyz, but thats another topic in itself.
ndman~
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Hot dang, you are one smart man. I know a couple people who are going to have broken hearts when they read that. :)
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justindude28 That is the point of the post, I found this site and while I did find a few of the plans interesting I found a majority of them immature and not realistic. I dont know if this is because of the age of the people that wrote out the plans or that these peoples reality is skewed or unrealistic of their own capabilites. I believe that a lot of people on this site are just kids based off of school references.
I found this site while searching for related information about post apocalyptic situations, and while I dont know about zombies, there were a few plans that did provide some information or at least got my mind thinking. The main reason for my search on information related to post apocalyptic situations is that I am seeing a lot of talk about them, and I dont mean on the internet, I go to the internet to search but not really talk. I dont normally go and sign up and talk to people on sites like this, the only site I am a member on and am active on is the military.com forums. But the talk I am hearing is from when I go to VA hospital, I am a war veteran free medical, VFW, or any of the fraternal organizations bars in my town/region/state which include the Masons, Shriners, and Elks Lodge, there are others but I am not a part of them, of course this might just be because I am from a conservative state, that has no real liberal minority.
Well, I don't know about the US army, or the British, but I don't need to. My plan is just running away and hiding on a hill. The only nearby bases to me are (I think) RAF. So I'll be bombed.
You should look into it for your plan, bases/installations that are near where you start out at, any near along the way to your destination, and if there are any near your destination. I dont know what you mean by you would be bombed, does this mean that if the air force sees your encampment they might think its a zombie horde and bomb you? I did read your plan looks interesting. What would you do if a military convoy came to your destination? What if they asked you to leave, that they had a military base or some sort of camp that they say is secure? What if it was some sort of militia or group of random people organized during the zombie apocalypse.
I know that there would be panic and all that but what if groups do emerge, they dont have to be military, like I said before I was in the military, I am not anymore, but I am part of some of the fraternal organizations in my city and I dont believe that they would just sit around and do nothing/panic, especially if the outbreak started out somewhere else in the nation/planet and it was spreading but hadnt yet gotten to my city/region.
Wow...Thanks. But a lot of the people on this site are full grown adults... some were even in the army...
My apologies if I offended you. I said that as it appeared to me, through reading numerous zombie plans, and the forum talk related to school. That was my basis of saying that. I came here to get ideas and add to my own creativity, and since this site did have a few good plans or at least parts of plans that were good, I decided to sign up and give out a little knowledge back since I got something out of this site, knowledge that a lot people on this site didn't know based upon the zombie plans I read. I was hoping for possible conversations related to post apocalyptic situations, more on this site is viral outbreak based upon some virus turning people into zombies and the virus spreading primarily through human interaction with zombies.
ndman, you don't need to worry about offending anyone here. Even if you do, I think you have the right to. It's not every day that someone who actually knows their crap comes here, and we're grateful for the opportunity to learn whenever they do pop up.
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A word on the regular military (Reservists), specifically the Navy:
First, in order to be in the 'regular' military, you have to have your GED or high school diploma before you go to Boot Camp, and if you are not 18 your papers must be signed by a legal parent/guardian. There are also some security background checks that are run, some more so than others depending on the clearance needed (for example, an IS would need more clearance than a CS). Then, of course, once you get to the MEPS (Military Enterance Processing Station) to choose your rate, you have to choose from what they have available that day...and be quick about it! When I went there I had 6 options open, but by the time I finally was able to get to the point that I would choose there were only 2 options left. They run out FAST.
Next, is training. There is no difference in the time of training for Reservists and Active Duty (so boot camp is still going to be about 8 to 10 weeks!). Then you have A-School for your rate, which depends on your rate as to how long it takes, and some rates have a C-School which would make you be away even longer for your training.
THEN you finally come home, after months of being away. You'd have a NAT station to report to (Reserve station in the closest base), and you'd be obligated to serve two days every month and two weeks out of every year. Then, after a couple of years, you would actually get a real deployment overseas, which would make you be gone for anywhere between one and three years. And no, it doesn't matter if your contract was about to end, you'd get it extended to fit the amount of time you'd be gone.
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